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	<title>Comments on: What is the the demographic for the fantastic?</title>
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		<title>By: adele</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lack of back catalogue frustrates me deeply but otherwise I can still lose the best part of an hour to browsing in waterstones.</description>
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		<title>By: damiengwalter</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All good points Will. I like the term Outsider Fiction. That is the thing genre has really lost, the kind of outcast chic it once had is gone, at least for now. And yes it is certainly a cycle. I think the ebook revolution might well be the thing that shakes up genre this time around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All good points Will. I like the term Outsider Fiction. That is the thing genre has really lost, the kind of outcast chic it once had is gone, at least for now. And yes it is certainly a cycle. I think the ebook revolution might well be the thing that shakes up genre this time around.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Ellwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Ellwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well things have certainly changed in the Waterstones SFF section and I find myself browsing there for shorter and shorter periods each time. 

The key difference I notice is that there has increasingly been a lack of any real breadth or depth. There is a fairly good selection of the &quot;classics*&quot; and a selection of books by current authors. But there&#039;s no real way for someone to find a niche and tunnel down into it. 

An issue of store size and the way Waterstones operates as a bookstore. 

Of course, there is the growth of paranormal romance and the constant attraction of horror fiction to throw into this. But this is maybe the Twilight, Stephen King, Anne Rice factor. Constantly there for the past thirty years in some form

I&#039;d also argue that SFF was alternative fiction (outsider fiction) because it was the fiction, at the time, which explored ideas that mainstream literature refused to engage. This has changed somewhat with books borrowing ideas from SF winning major literary awards and historical fiction, which is surely just fantasy wearing real names instead of made up ones, also becoming the norm. 

Reading the cheap truth zines by Bruce Sterling there was a note of dissatisfaction that SFF had become stale back in the early eighties. Maybe it is cyclical process and it is time for a new new wave. 

Yes, I am rambling now. 

- Will. 
 
* A whole other problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well things have certainly changed in the Waterstones SFF section and I find myself browsing there for shorter and shorter periods each time. </p>
<p>The key difference I notice is that there has increasingly been a lack of any real breadth or depth. There is a fairly good selection of the &#8220;classics*&#8221; and a selection of books by current authors. But there&#8217;s no real way for someone to find a niche and tunnel down into it. </p>
<p>An issue of store size and the way Waterstones operates as a bookstore. </p>
<p>Of course, there is the growth of paranormal romance and the constant attraction of horror fiction to throw into this. But this is maybe the Twilight, Stephen King, Anne Rice factor. Constantly there for the past thirty years in some form</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also argue that SFF was alternative fiction (outsider fiction) because it was the fiction, at the time, which explored ideas that mainstream literature refused to engage. This has changed somewhat with books borrowing ideas from SF winning major literary awards and historical fiction, which is surely just fantasy wearing real names instead of made up ones, also becoming the norm. </p>
<p>Reading the cheap truth zines by Bruce Sterling there was a note of dissatisfaction that SFF had become stale back in the early eighties. Maybe it is cyclical process and it is time for a new new wave. </p>
<p>Yes, I am rambling now. </p>
<p>- Will. </p>
<p>* A whole other problem.</p>
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