<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Americaland</title>
	<atom:link href="http://damiengwalter.com/2010/02/04/americaland/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://damiengwalter.com/2010/02/04/americaland/</link>
	<description>Writer of weird fiction, Guardian columnist and journalist.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:32:44 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: danielhall</title>
		<link>http://damiengwalter.com/2010/02/04/americaland/#comment-669</link>
		<dc:creator>danielhall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://damiengwalter.com/?p=1050#comment-669</guid>
		<description>You rumbled me Damien!

Unlike my predecessor, I try to keep up with the times and am working on my web-presence.

I don&#039;t yet have a Twitter account however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You rumbled me Damien!</p>
<p>Unlike my predecessor, I try to keep up with the times and am working on my web-presence.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t yet have a Twitter account however.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Damien Walter</title>
		<link>http://damiengwalter.com/2010/02/04/americaland/#comment-668</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://damiengwalter.com/?p=1050#comment-668</guid>
		<description>Science fiction might be a whole other kettle of fish. Americaland   tends to be a setting for horror and urban fantasy, because of it&#039;s   mythic qualities. Science fiction often relies on much more realism in   it&#039;s settings, which actually makes it&#039;s sensawunda greater. 

</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science fiction might be a whole other kettle of fish. Americaland   tends to be a setting for horror and urban fantasy, because of it&#8217;s   mythic qualities. Science fiction often relies on much more realism in   it&#8217;s settings, which actually makes it&#8217;s sensawunda greater.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Richard Hayden</title>
		<link>http://damiengwalter.com/2010/02/04/americaland/#comment-667</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Hayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://damiengwalter.com/?p=1050#comment-667</guid>
		<description>Personally, I have always struggled to write science fiction locations not familiar to me. For this reason, all my earthbound stories have been set in London or the Home Counties. Probably, I ponder too long on details during the writing process and thus convince myself a lack of specific knowledge of a locale would prevent me from describing it accurately. However, as one of the other respondents said: the trick is making it convincing, which is not the same as accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I have always struggled to write science fiction locations not familiar to me. For this reason, all my earthbound stories have been set in London or the Home Counties. Probably, I ponder too long on details during the writing process and thus convince myself a lack of specific knowledge of a locale would prevent me from describing it accurately. However, as one of the other respondents said: the trick is making it convincing, which is not the same as accurate.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Damien Walter</title>
		<link>http://damiengwalter.com/2010/02/04/americaland/#comment-666</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://damiengwalter.com/?p=1050#comment-666</guid>
		<description>Hi Grant, 

Thanks for that, Much to think on in what you have said. As a rule I   don&#039;t tend to write on the basis of what I think people will read   Instead I choose stories based on where my imagination wants to go. So   it&#039;s an I ternal rather than an external factor that draws me into   Americaland. And I for one would like to read a story set in   Newzealandland! 

Damien 

</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Grant, </p>
<p>Thanks for that, Much to think on in what you have said. As a rule I   don&#8217;t tend to write on the basis of what I think people will read   Instead I choose stories based on where my imagination wants to go. So   it&#8217;s an I ternal rather than an external factor that draws me into   Americaland. And I for one would like to read a story set in   Newzealandland! </p>
<p>Damien</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Grant Stone</title>
		<link>http://damiengwalter.com/2010/02/04/americaland/#comment-665</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://damiengwalter.com/?p=1050#comment-665</guid>
		<description>I think there are several different threads here that could be unpicked.

First: Yes, Americaland is as fake as Middle Earth or Dune. But if it&#039;s written well enough, it can be as real as Middle Earth or Dune. It may not be a real place, but I&#039;m not sure it should be dismissed out of hand just because of that. We&#039;ve absorbed Americaland all our lives. I think it&#039;s valid to explore that. Of course, if our stories rely on lazy stereotypes, we&#039;re doomed. 

Second: There is an assumption that if you want your story to be widely read, it&#039;s set in America. Guy Hasson&#039;s recent editorial on the world SF blog summed this up really well.

http://worldsf.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/wednesday-editorial-guy-hasson-on-writing-for-two-cultures/

Third: your &quot;British tendency towards naffness&quot; - we call it the cultural cringe down here in New Zealand. The thought that telling a story from your own country just won&#039;t sound as compelling as one from Americaland. We don&#039;t just get American popular culture here: commonwealth countries sit on the border of Americaland and, well, call it Britainland. From here, the sun coming up on a rainy Soho street is just as mythic and remarkable as a deserted Nevada highway.

There&#039;s certainly a lot of interest in the view outside of Americaland at the moment, from District 9 to River of Gods. But still, every time I start writing I have the same doubts as you. Would you read a Science Fiction story set in New Zealand? Not the mythic New Zealand-, um, -land, but the real place? 

In the end I think the story will dictate where it wants to be told. Personally, about a third of my stories seem to be set in the US, a third in the UK and a third here in New Zealand. I&#039;m OK with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are several different threads here that could be unpicked.</p>
<p>First: Yes, Americaland is as fake as Middle Earth or Dune. But if it&#8217;s written well enough, it can be as real as Middle Earth or Dune. It may not be a real place, but I&#8217;m not sure it should be dismissed out of hand just because of that. We&#8217;ve absorbed Americaland all our lives. I think it&#8217;s valid to explore that. Of course, if our stories rely on lazy stereotypes, we&#8217;re doomed. </p>
<p>Second: There is an assumption that if you want your story to be widely read, it&#8217;s set in America. Guy Hasson&#8217;s recent editorial on the world SF blog summed this up really well.</p>
<p><a href="http://worldsf.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/wednesday-editorial-guy-hasson-on-writing-for-two-cultures/" rel="nofollow">http://worldsf.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/wednesday-editorial-guy-hasson-on-writing-for-two-cultures/</a></p>
<p>Third: your &#8220;British tendency towards naffness&#8221; &#8211; we call it the cultural cringe down here in New Zealand. The thought that telling a story from your own country just won&#8217;t sound as compelling as one from Americaland. We don&#8217;t just get American popular culture here: commonwealth countries sit on the border of Americaland and, well, call it Britainland. From here, the sun coming up on a rainy Soho street is just as mythic and remarkable as a deserted Nevada highway.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s certainly a lot of interest in the view outside of Americaland at the moment, from District 9 to River of Gods. But still, every time I start writing I have the same doubts as you. Would you read a Science Fiction story set in New Zealand? Not the mythic New Zealand-, um, -land, but the real place? </p>
<p>In the end I think the story will dictate where it wants to be told. Personally, about a third of my stories seem to be set in the US, a third in the UK and a third here in New Zealand. I&#8217;m OK with that.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: damiengwalter</title>
		<link>http://damiengwalter.com/2010/02/04/americaland/#comment-664</link>
		<dc:creator>damiengwalter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://damiengwalter.com/?p=1050#comment-664</guid>
		<description>Megan - Cool. and also this is an excuse for me to visit california again soon. reserach and all that...

Sam - good to know I&#039;m not alone!

Daniel Hall - nice of you to take a break from you duties to comment on a mere mortals blog! And yes, I agree that internal consistency is the key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Megan &#8211; Cool. and also this is an excuse for me to visit california again soon. reserach and all that&#8230;</p>
<p>Sam &#8211; good to know I&#8217;m not alone!</p>
<p>Daniel Hall &#8211; nice of you to take a break from you duties to comment on a mere mortals blog! And yes, I agree that internal consistency is the key.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: danielhall</title>
		<link>http://damiengwalter.com/2010/02/04/americaland/#comment-663</link>
		<dc:creator>danielhall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://damiengwalter.com/?p=1050#comment-663</guid>
		<description>As a reader of speculative fiction I&#039;m not especially bothered about the setting of a book being true-to-life.  I read to escape from the hum-drum of the real world after all.

I do want the setting to be internally consistent though, so that it feels real.  Gotham may not represent any real american metropolis but it&#039;s fine by me as long as it feels like Gotham to the core, in all its details.

It is more difficult to convince a native however.  I&#039;m reminded of those episodes of Lost which are supposed to be set in the UK but are clearly filmed in Australia.  They&#039;ve cast the Australian actor who can do the best imitation of an English accent and dotted the streets with red post-boxes in a vain attempt to cover up for the fact that the place looks and feels nothing like the UK.

I guess it would be equally hard for Americans to read an English representation of Americaland without spotting similar flaws.  The devil&#039;s in the detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a reader of speculative fiction I&#8217;m not especially bothered about the setting of a book being true-to-life.  I read to escape from the hum-drum of the real world after all.</p>
<p>I do want the setting to be internally consistent though, so that it feels real.  Gotham may not represent any real american metropolis but it&#8217;s fine by me as long as it feels like Gotham to the core, in all its details.</p>
<p>It is more difficult to convince a native however.  I&#8217;m reminded of those episodes of Lost which are supposed to be set in the UK but are clearly filmed in Australia.  They&#8217;ve cast the Australian actor who can do the best imitation of an English accent and dotted the streets with red post-boxes in a vain attempt to cover up for the fact that the place looks and feels nothing like the UK.</p>
<p>I guess it would be equally hard for Americans to read an English representation of Americaland without spotting similar flaws.  The devil&#8217;s in the detail.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sam Strong</title>
		<link>http://damiengwalter.com/2010/02/04/americaland/#comment-662</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Strong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://damiengwalter.com/?p=1050#comment-662</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m guilty of this too. The diners especially. There&#039;s just something that draws me in. For now though I&#039;m railing against it and trying to think about (and include in my writing) the places I grew up in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m guilty of this too. The diners especially. There&#8217;s just something that draws me in. For now though I&#8217;m railing against it and trying to think about (and include in my writing) the places I grew up in.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Megan Kurashige</title>
		<link>http://damiengwalter.com/2010/02/04/americaland/#comment-661</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan Kurashige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 07:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://damiengwalter.com/?p=1050#comment-661</guid>
		<description>This idea sounds promising. I want to read the story. In America, we like to make up our own various Americalands (witness my own beloved San Francisco) anyway.
Besides, I&#039;ll help make sure you don&#039;t go putting any boots and bonnets on the car...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This idea sounds promising. I want to read the story. In America, we like to make up our own various Americalands (witness my own beloved San Francisco) anyway.<br />
Besides, I&#8217;ll help make sure you don&#8217;t go putting any boots and bonnets on the car&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

